Big Bad Me suffers a brutal buttwhooping!

[triedNtrue]

I had absolutely no idea the opiate demon possessed such grotesque strength. Holy shit...i got my sorry ass whooped like never before. I nearly crumbled at the feet of the Dark Dragons relentless assault upon my entirety. Mind you, im no physical dwarf, standing all of 6 + feet and shoulders that normally do not slouch. Ive never been so easily folded and thoroughly reduced to a babbling, crying, depressed piece of balsa wood.All the times i laughed at the "weak minded" softies and the times i held minimal compassion for those detoxifiying came back to smack me across the face like a punch from Mike Tyson.Let me continue by offering my most sincere apologies to all the men and women who have gone through the horrible, psychotic withdrawl from the God Damned Evil O. Never again will i underestimate the formidable bastard and never again will i under appreciate the battle us comrades-in-arms engage in to slay the beast of opiate addiction.Its tried n true and very real, and i will make no more mistake about it. Keep ur heads up and private message me if you need help or someone to listen.On a closing note, the one thing i find solace in with regards to the devils poison is everything and everyone has a weakness somewhere or place. The biggity O is not invincible, no matter how insurmountable he may seem. There is a way, difficult as it is to find, its there. We, and those we impact, deserve an effort that never quits and crumples, like myself, at the kidnapping devils toes. **** you satan!

[Crypto]

@triedNtrue . . . So sorry for what you had to go through and I hear what you are saying loud and clear. I am on the tail end of getting off m3th@d0ne and it has been a long, painful, grueling, torturous journey with many backslides and lots of unintended consequences.

I'm one of those people who had a little difficulty listening to the judgment of well meaning but ignorant people who had no idea how bad 0piate wd can be depending on which 0piate/0pioid was used, how much and for how long. I've talked to and read posts by people who thought their little sniffle or "flu-like" symptoms was all there is to withdrawal.

I just chalk that up to life, we all have our blind spots and different stuff we need to learn to grow as human beings and fortunately or unfortunately life usually gives us exactly what we need in order to grow and maybe learn more compassion for the suffering of others.

This may be a little late but welcome to the forum. I've been absent a while so I could focus on recovery and because I was just too weak to get out of bed much.

[crosseyedandpainless]

My kid sister was a full-blown mainlining Junkie for 8 years. We almost lost her a couple of times. She has now been clean and sober for 12 years. She hated Methadone, too-- said if she'd had to do it again-- it would be "cold turkey"-- rather than use THAT stuff.

[xj6guy]

i have heard the methadone is harder to get off of then the opiates that caused it.

[mikeford]

i have heard the methadone is harder to get off of then the opiates that caused it.

Subs are harder to get off than the stuff that puts people on them.

Mike

[Crypto]

I think the idea is "they" don't want us to get off either of those "meds" that are supposed to help people suffering with addiction. Had I stuck it out when I posted on this thread in 2018 I might not be in the living hell my life has become but I used a death in my family as an excuse to give up trying or maybe I really didn't care anymore but now I have been on methadone for 5 years and being in poor health there seems to be no way off this med. I live in constant fear that supplies will be cut off because I quit the clinic after 6 months and pay a lot for it so I can have a little dignity and freedom. I've reduced my dosage as much as I can stand but that leaves me mostly non-functional and in constant pain.

I post this in case someone might read it and think twice about getting on methadone. I was snorting high doses of Opana (which to me was a lot stronger than ***) and went through wd's for 4 days on two different occasions, both times unwillingly but also both times my order finally arrived and even though I was through the worst of it I could not resist the relief as feeling very bad can go on for months or longer until neurotransmitters rebuild or replenish themselves and our health recovers. At this point my life's only purpose seems to be as a cautionary tale. Withdrawing from anything is less painful than methadone and I'm sure suboxone, as @mikeford posted.

[xj6guy]

i was always taught to be strong and never let anything control you. i went through a 1 month withdrawal on my own and although i had thousands of pills i never even thought about taking one. i went through a month of hell and then a year of getting my brain back. but at least i proved i was strong enough,all i thought of is theses things this this to me so its the last thing i need to take. i lost 50 pounds ,slept i hour every three days and had to throw the couch i lived on for a month in the garbage. I feel sorry for the people that don't have that strength .i thank my parents for teaching me that i did.the only thing is in hindsight i wish i would have at least taken some valium so i could have slept but like i said all i knew was they did it to me so it was the last thing i wanted was any kind off pill. i never even thought about taking anything not even once.as far as all the pills i had they never even entered my mind.and what @mike and @Crypto said is true,they just want to get you hooked on something else,i tried subs for pain and they were worse then stopping the opi*tes.

[Palmetto10]

I met a lady in detox that was put on subs for a tram addiction. This was about 8 years ago but myself and the other people could not believe they gave her something stronger and more difficult to come off of than the trams themselves.

[robert1975]

The worst withdrawals I went through was from Mbox 30's, 30mg ***. Holy shit, that was the worst, I couldn't get out of bed for 5 days and this was at a treatment center where they gave me meds to help. Finally, by the third day they started giving me suboxone and it still took two days to finally start knocking that shit back. I was snorting about 450mg a day though which is a lot and would kill someone without a tolerance, but I would not wish those withdrawals on my worst enemy, I hope I never have to go through that again. Hopefully I learned my lesson with opiates.

[SteveEast]

I met a lady in detox that was put on subs for a tram addiction. This was about 8 years ago but myself and the other people could not believe they gave her something stronger and more difficult to come off of than the trams themselves.

I personally always feel like that tram withdrawal is way over exaggerated....I've came off ***, subs, and tram... And *** wd were always the worst... The most painful and PAWS lasted for many months..

[Cheese1]

I personally always feel like that tram withdrawal is way over exaggerated....I've came off ***, subs, and tram... And *** wd were always the worst... The most painful and PAWS lasted for many months..

I been thru *** withdrawal more times than I can count and man!!! It does suck!! How was your sub withdrawal?

[SteveEast]

I been thru *** withdrawal more times than I can count and man!!! It does suck!! How was your sub withdrawal?

Honestly, the sub withdrawals really sucked every time..... Especially after years and years of using them.... I still don't think it was as painful as *** withdrawals and they did drag out a little longer... But it's so doable.... It also helps that the mental part isn't as tough to deal with like with a full opiate agonist..... Worst for me are always the PAWS for months on end.....